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If you ever wondered where Spider-man’s black costume first appeared, you’ve come to the right place! Here is the historic page from the mind of Jim Shooter and the drawing board of Mike Zeck in Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #8. (It was reprinted in the Secret Wars TPB.)

This is all there is to it: a little black ball pops out of a machine on some other planet. No one knew until later it was a hideous alien symbiote! Sucking on Spidey’s will to live! Trying to take him over! Eventually, separated from Spider-man, the alien symbiote would bond with Eddie Brock to become Venom.
Although this was the first appearance of the black suit in Spidey’s life, it was not the first time it saw print.
Secret Wars #8 has a publication date of December, 1984. Earlier, in May, 1984, the black suit appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #252, The Spectacular Spider-Man #90, and Marvel Team-Up #141. Marvel Age #12 (March, 1984) came out a full two months before ASM #252 and featured sketches of Spidey’s new black costume. Despite their historical significance, all but ASM #252 can be had in a satisfying Fine or Very Fine condition for about the price of a new book these days.
It is also worth noting that Spidey wasn’t even the first to wear it. Julia Carpenter, the second Spider-Woman, wore the black suit first in Secret Wars #6 and #7. This explains Spidey’s comment about “maybe” being “subconsciously influenced by that new Spider-Woman’s suit”.
Since this post first saw the light of symbiotic day, several people have expanded the research in our comment sections. Transformers #3 (of a 4-issue limited series) has a publication date of January, 1985, so it must have been on the shelves in late 1984 near the same time as Secret Wars #8. An IDW Transformers reprint book discusses the legal reasons behind Spidey’s appearance in the black suit in this issue.
According to reader Lpaul, Amazing Heroes #39 (January, 1984) shows a black-suited Spider-Man in a preview which predates all the above books.
Reader Brandon DeSantis kindly provided us with images of three earlier appearances, along with their dates. First, in Heroes Hotline from December, 1983, we see the front and back of a black-suited Spidey. The Secret Wars series was called by another name: The Cosmic Champions.


Second, and also hailing from December, 1983, is The Comic Reader #215. Here is the cover followed by the preview of the costume.


But we can go even earlier! In Amazing Heroes #35 (November, 1983), we see the back of a black-suited Spider-man in a newsflash about Secret Wars by another name: The Secret War. Notice that the text refers to the suit as being black and red, although the issue is printed in black and white. The image looks exactly like the image shown in Heroes Hotline.

Reader Steven Farshid contacted us to say we can go even earlier! He sent images from Comics Journal #85, dated October 1983. A Newswatch article on page 13 bears the headline “All Major Marvel Characters to Engage in Year-Long ‘Secret War’ in 1984”, and continues on page 14 with an illustration of the black suit.


What’s that you say? You want to see the black suit concept art from when the white parts were intended to be red? Reader Brandon DeSantis has you covered yet again, with these two scans from Marvel Age #12.


The artwork is from Rick Leonardi, based on ideas submitted in a story by spider-fan Randy Schueller. Below is the letter from Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter offering to buy the story. For the full details, check out Randy’s 2007 statement about his original story idea for the black suit.

Amazing Heroes #39 (jan 1984) shows the first published photo of the Black Suit Spider-Man along with a preview article, just like how Marvel Age #12 (March 1984) was a preview book. Amazing Heroes #39 predates Marvel Age #12, Amazing Spider-Man #252, Spectacular Spider-Man #90 and Marvel Team-Up #141 along with Secret Wars #8 too. Not many folks know about Amazing Heroes #39, so go scoop it up for a low price while you can! Happy hunting!
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Thank you for visiting and pointing this out!
We’ll make the hunt easy for our readers by posting a link to the issue here: Amazing Heroes #39.
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You’re very welcome!! 🙂 I think Amazing Heroes #39 would be a great addition for any Spider-Man fan or collector out there! I like your page btw. Glad I stumbled upon it! Take care!
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Amazing Heroes #35 (Nov. 1983) shows Spider-Man in the black costume, in a promo for the upcoming Secret Wars, and mentions his new “black and red” suit.
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Hi
Does anyone know when and what magazine or comic book the first images with the black and RED suit was first published? I’m assuming that it predates the article in the October 1983 issue of the Comic Journal (RED scrapped for WHITE), but I could be wrong.
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Kerry,
I’ve never seen the red & black version in print; even a scan I recently found from a page of “Wizard” printed Leonardi’s concept art in black & white. I am thinking the red & black scans on the web might just be copies of original concept art that didn’t get printed.
But I could be wrong, and it wouldn’t surprise me if one of our astute readers unearths a specific issue where the art saw print!
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As far as I can tell, Marvel Age #12 is the first time the black with red coloring was published, all other promotional material was in black and white as documented in the webpage’s article. The black and red costume concept was recently revisited in Spider-Man/Deadpool #8 (2016).
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Thank you for dropping by to help answer that question!
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Thanks Brandon and good to Know!!
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Kerry, I updated the post with scans of the black and red costume from the pages of Marvel Age #12. Shout out to Brandon for sending the scans so I could update for you!
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So where does Transformers #3 from the limited series come into this black suit Spidey discussion? That also came out in 1984. Where in order does that slip into the black suit timeline?
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I’ve never read that issue, but here is a post from someone who has. It includes a quote, taken from an IDW Transformers reprint book, about the legal reasons behind Spidey’s appearance in the black suit in this issue. http://www.yousephtanha.com/blog/2013/02/21/transformers-review-issue-3-prisoner-of-war/
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Amazing Heroes #35 from November 1983 published prior to AH39 and Marvel Age 12 makes mention of Spider-Man getting a new black and red costume in the upcoming Secret Wars, and shows an image of him from behind in a black and white costume (this is a black and white publication).
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If you’ve got a scan or photo of that, we’d love to see it!
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Will do! and I just found out a second promo appearance is in Heroes Hotline Dec 1983, still earlier than the AH 39 and MA 12. How do I upload a scanned image?
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This is fascinating – I grew up with the Transformers comics so for me Spiderman had always been dressed in black. I didn’t realise he had changed only recently. The basic idea of a dark’n’edgy makeover was ahead of the curve, I reckon.
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Glad you enjoyed this post, Ashley! It has been a learning experience for me, too. Even though I bought issues of Secret Wars in various drug stores and retail stores just before the dawn of widespread specialty comic shops, I only learned of these many “first” appearances until after creating this post. It’s been added to and updated many times as readers keep sending appearances I never knew about.
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The first appearance is in Comics Journal 85 from October 1983!
Topher S
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Topher, do you have you a scan or photo of the pages to add to this post? And I know that Brandon, who contributed 4 or 5 early appearances to this post, would love to add it to his research collection.
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I’m only reading this now, and now I’m on the hunt! Thanks so much!!
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We’ve got pics of it now, thanks to our kind readers! Good call!
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Sweet! Thanks for sharing this info! I have them all except for this one and now that I’m aware of it it’s too expensive on ebay apparently haha oh well, thanks!
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Hi, Brandon! Welcome back to the comment thread on this post. It sounds like you’ve been on a collector’s adventure to round up all these early appearances–and you aren’t the only one! It’s crazy how many people have contacted me about this post with scans and so on. Thank you for adding to it over the years, and good luck getting that final issue!
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There’s one glaring omission here… Marvel Age #13. It was on the shelf 2 weeks before ASM 252 and contained 2 large story panels from ASM252 as well as a full page ad for Secret Wars 1 which also had not released.
The panels show spider-man wearing his symbiote suit jumping back through a portal from the Beyonder planet with Dr. Connors/Lizard and rejoicing over a safe return home to New York.
All previous publications of the black-suit are only mock-ups and style guides.
These are actual story panels from ASM continuity as written by Tom DeFalco and drawn by Ron Frenz.
Marvel Age 12, for some reason, is going crazy right now getting $400 and up for a 9.8 and that only has Leonardi’s black and red suit sketches. Dumb.
Two panels of spidey in his suit, not dinky little panels either, full color, spidey in action.
It should be considered the alien costume’s first cameo appearance in continuity.
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Thank you, Trent, for the info on Marvel Age #13!
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